Deitsch Web TV: Frog en Deitscher

Was henn die Pennsylvanisch-Deitsche mit “Germany – Deitschland” zu duh? Was iss der Unnerschidd zwischich en Deitscher un en Deitschlenner? Un fiehle die Pennsylvanisch-Deitsche deitsch? Ebber weess en Antwatt: Unser Freind, der Doug Madenford, Co-Editor vun “Hiwwe wie Driwwe” …

8 responses to “Deitsch Web TV: Frog en Deitscher

  1. Tracy Hoffman

    My maternal grandparents spoke Dutch. My dad’s grandfather too. My mom and her brothers were born between the wars, so they learned some. (Mom called cottage cheese schmierkäss, for example.) I’m pretty fluent in hochdeutsch, especially reading and listening to it. I’m trying to figure out PA Dutch. If I try to read plattdeutsch, I remove the high German sound shift, and that helps. ( Das = dat, was = wat, apfel = Appel, etc. ) With Dutch, the sound changes seem inconsistent. Ein Tür ist Dier, zb.
    No umlauts either! I have the Haag textbook, but he doesn’t address this. Some things I see, some I don’t. Relearning German seems daunting. BTW my uncles have that same doofi humor. If you don’t know many Dutch, it’s hard to differentiate between family wierdness and Dutch kultur. But learning German culture showed me, the cultural similarities.
    Danke für ihre Arbeit. Meine großeltern würde glücklich sein, das ich eine bisschen PA Deitsch gelernt.

  2. Michael Werner


  3. Hallo,
    gibt es in Deutschland genauer gesagt in Berlin/Brandenburg die möglichkeit Amisch kennen zu lernen?
    Viele Grüße

  4. Thank you for your response, Roland! Now that you’ve mentioned the word Gemeinschaft, the word Gmee definitely makes more sense! :) :)

  5. PS, yes “zu DIE Gmee geh”. One of the divisions between Gmeeleit and Karrichleit is that the the Gemeeleit don’t use the dative case much (if at all) anymore.

    On the other hand, most Karrichleit don’t use the language at all any more, but the few that do, still use the dative.

  6. Conni, “Gmee” is sort of “church,” but only inasmuch as the Amish will talk about “going to church” in English interchangeably with “zu die Gmee geh” in the dialect. But more precisely it is the word for a congregation or church-meeting among groups of people who don’t meet in a church. The Amish, for example, do not use church buildings, but meet in members’ homes. Old Order Mennonites meet in simple meetinghouses, with no decoration or steeples or bells. A fundamental division in Pa Dutch culture is between the Gmeeleit and the Karrichleit. (Karrich is the word for “church” as found among Lutherans, Reformed, Roman Catholics, etc.). So “Gmeeleit” can be equivalent to “Plain Dutch” and “Karrichleit” more-or-less to “Fancy Dutch”.

    I’m not sure what the Plain Dutch would call Quakers, who also meet in a plain style of meetinghouse. Probably just “English”!

    Remember that Pa Dutch, like Palatine German, has a way of dropping, shortening, or altering vowels and especially of dropping off final -n. So if I restore a few of those and write “gemeen” I think you will have no trouble seeing the relationship to Standard German “Gemeinschaft”.

    Grüß aus New Jersey, USA!

  7. Thank you for this wonderfully informational video!! I’m currently writing some articles on Pennsylvania German and your site here is proving a big, big help! It’s interesting, though, that you said Bavarians would have a hard time communicating with someone in Pennsylvania German, because I myself speak Bavarian and I am able to read Pennsylvania German as you’ve got it written here on your blog. It actually sounds very similar to the way my Bavarian family speak (Lower Bavaria, to be more specific), though there are differences, and there are some words I am clueless about (what, for example, is a Gmee? Is that a church?). Perhaps it is easier to read than it is to hear! Anyway, thank you again and keep up the good work! :)
    Conni x

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